dv8 Report This Comment Date: December 12, 2008 08:13AM
this is why i don't pray to god to send me the one person to whom was meant to
be mine or my soulmate to spend life together. i'm sure she has inner beauty and
all that but inner beauty doesnt get me hard.
suchez Report This Comment Date: December 12, 2008 09:56AM
seems happie to one (such as i)
lol omg and you pray to god... lmao!
god is not real, and thank god that it is imaginary
hahaha you people are so sad, need to have an imaginary friend
and your governments, they believe in gods
it's 2000 and fucking 8 already
we have the technology
and yet......
hahaha oh fucking classic!
the monkeys that the modern humans evolved from must have been especially
retarded
surprised you fuckers ever made it out of the trees
dv8 Report This Comment Date: December 12, 2008 11:34AM
oh shit, your the one on the left. i understand now why youthink there is no
god.if i looked like that, i might be a little pissed at god too.
suchez Report This Comment Date: December 12, 2008 12:20PM
lol
no is not i
(and sorry for the rant at you, no meds today)
well, in order for one such as i to believe in something, one needs to be
presented with material evidence for said phenomena/occurrance
man made up his gods because through his evolution he has forgotten that he does
things out of necessity... not because he thinks
that is not how things work in the universe, thought does not precede material
jgoins Report This Comment Date: December 12, 2008 12:34PM
suchez, you are in the minority. The vast majority of the world believes in
God and you will never sway their beliefs.
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: December 12, 2008 01:16PM
I ain't buyin into the god deal either and gladly accept the minority status
such a view places me in. I don't care about tryin to convert anyone to my way
of thinking, but I do wish some of the religious crowd actually tried doing a
bit more of that .... thinking, that is.
Only through probing and questioning the commonly accepted norms are any real
revelations truly observed. Wholeheartedly swallowing the constructs of anythng
simply because it's accepted by the majority as right or truth points to
individual weakness or a lack of depth
suchez Report This Comment Date: December 12, 2008 01:46PM
like it aforementions:
"surprised you fuckers ever made it out of the trees"
and to whom credited us with 75k we are gratuitous
i will be expecting it transfered into either my account or it may be
presented,and then given to me in the same value of marijuana buds
back to the matter at hand: because the majority of the homo s. are believe in
unseen does not make it true
it does not take form because you imagine it, you are behaving as a idealist,
metaphysicist, utopian
also mindless, follower, conformist
if most of the people in your group were to jump off of a cliff, would you then
too jump off said cliff?
i am not suggesting that one should not go to the edge of said cliff
look down, i don't maybe there is a ledge there where the rest of your group is
and they are enjoying 75k worth of marijuana buds and were trying to trick you
and not share (of course the people in your group are fucking assholes for
behaving in such a manner in the first place and i would recommend that you find
another group... that is assuming that you smoke marijuana, whatever, if not
replace the marijuana with tomatoes or cake or whatever the fuck you enjoy)
but the way that you are behaving, it is a foolish way to behave, in this
analogy you are the blockhead that does not look over the edge first, but
instead it merely jumps over the edge without thinking... and if there is not a
ledge to land on you will die at the bottom and never be able to think ever
again
no wait, sorry i got caught up in my own analogy, but either way:
there is no proof that god exists
suchez Report This Comment Date: December 12, 2008 01:53PM
oh yeah, back to the topic:
wtf is wrong with you people? who cares if she is fugly in your eyes? they seem
happy together
it seems like mayhaps you are jealous of their coupling, maybe you are lonely.
is that why you believe in an imaginary god? because no one was willing to be
with you... you need god inside of you?
why so quick to give up? if those two can find each other and be happy then
surely you too can find someone
idk, try going to your church where you can meet a man/woman that is so lonely
too that it thinks it needs a god inside of it and then the two of you can get
over the addiction together... like some sort of support group or something
ToucanSam Report This Comment Date: December 12, 2008 09:12PM
One day humanity will have put all religions behind them and laugh at the
superstitions they once had.
GAK67 Report This Comment Date: December 12, 2008 09:46PM
Suchez:
god is not real, and thank god that it is imaginary - if God is
not real how can you thank him?
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: December 12, 2008 10:47PM
^^^^^ Now there's a reasoanble question in search of a meaningful answer ^^^^^
Good point GAK
suchez Report This Comment Date: December 13, 2008 01:24AM
because if i didn't say it that way, it would have lacked the humor
it needs to laugh even while being serious
"thank god..." = a common social expression, meaning: "it is good
that..."
but if it puts it the latter method it would lacks humor
and it is good thing indeed that god, as in the bible does not actually exist
ToucanSam Report This Comment Date: December 13, 2008 02:22AM
THAT'S A MAN, BABY !!!
ORLANDO399 Report This Comment Date: December 13, 2008 03:19AM
Think im gonna hafta agree with toucan on this un..yikes!
pro_junior Report This Comment Date: December 13, 2008 04:42AM
can't wait to see what their spawn will look like....
Madhatter Report This Comment Date: December 13, 2008 07:54AM
Just remember,soldier...oink while you boink,OINK!BOINK!OINK!BOINK!
jgoins Report This Comment Date: December 13, 2008 12:06PM
The problem with atheists is that they just can't leave it alone. They have to
continually try to convert believers to their non belief. Our belief in God
does nothing to harm you if you do not believe and as long as we do not try to
convert you then you should not stop us from expressing our beliefs. If you do
not believe in God then why should Merry Christmas bother you. If you do not
believe in God then why would it bother you to see anyone attending church or
even putting up a nativity scene. Freedom is the issue. You are free to not
believe if you choose and we are free to believe if we choose to. Even if we
have public prayer, you are free not to participate. I object to any religion
trying to convert others to their religion just as strongly as I object to
atheists trying to convert believers to their "religion".
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: December 13, 2008 02:01PM
There's a lot less truth to what you say than there is in the idea that
"people of faith" are out there tryin to "spread the word"
JG.
When was the last time you had an athiest come to your door and discuss their
beliefs with you, or had one walk up to you at a store or the mall and strike up
an anti-religous conversation, or left a flier on your door or car windshield
(or on the counter at the post office, like where I recently found a copy of The
Watchtower) discussing their ideas?
Don't know about anyone else, but the answer I'd give is ... never. On the flip
side, I couldn't begin to tell you how many times I've had "people of
faith" stop me and try to tell me all about their religon.
JG, we ARE a minority and that alone means the chance of ever even encountering
an athiest is waaaaaay less than encountering a "person of faith". It
sounds more to me that you are upset that some athiests are finally publicly
showing their distaste and displeasure with having to put up with all the
constant displays of religous faiths in public.
For myself, I celebrate Christmas, not as a religous holiday, but as one where I
exchange gifts with people I care about, enjoy the commaraderie of getting
together with family and friends, and LOVE all the good food that is a part of
it all. But, if I came to your house for Christmas, when you want us all to bow
our heads in prayer, I'll be the one standing there with my eyes wide open, my
head not bent in submission as you pray, and don't even bother to expect me to
say Amen at the end.
BTW, please try to understand one thing. I know you've read it here before, but
it seems worth reiterating since you don't seem to be getting it. Athiesm is an
ideology, NOT a religon
suchez Report This Comment Date: December 13, 2008 03:35PM
atheists are constantly trying to convert people to their beliefs?
it is addressed
When was the last time you had an athiest come to your door and discuss their
beliefs with you, or had one walk up to you at a store or the mall and strike up
an anti-religous conversation, or left a flier on your door or car windshield
(or on the counter at the post office, like where I recently found a copy of The
Watchtower) discussing their ideas?
but is also how these religions were spread... by the sword
atheists, decent atheists are trying to educate you
when has this one tried to suppress your religious views?
and when did it suggest it took offense to "merry xmas"? seriously,
wtf was it thinking?
atheism is not actually an ideology either though, but nor is it an religion, it
is more ratherly a product of materialist aspects in said ideology as different
ideologies will be within an atheist
picture there was no religion: there would not be atheist
the contradiction would transform into a new one
now there is atheist, but because there is still people enslaved to religion
it is at earlier of a stage
atheism is more rather a state of awareness of a scientific fact that there is
no god or any gods
thank god that there is not
jgoins Report This Comment Date: December 14, 2008 11:31AM
Let me clarify. I object vehemently to all the religions who try to spread
their faith by knocking on doors or by the use of swords as the Islamic faith
does. I also object to the churches who preach their interpretations of the
bible. I believe in God and Jesus but hold no belief in any organized religion
or attend any church. I would never try to convince you to believe as I do as
it is your choice to believe or not believe. I do object to government being so
politically correct that it will tell people you can't wish someone Merry
Christmas or put up a Christmas tree on public property where one has been for
years. I do object to people wanting to take words off our money which has been
there for years and do not promote any one religion. I do acknowledge that
belief in God has brought us out of the caves and to the point we are today. I
also will fight to the death for your right to not believe if you so choose as
I am sure Mr Kim will do for my right to believe.
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: December 14, 2008 04:03PM
JG, I would indeed defend anyones right to believe/not believe/worship or
whatever they choose as these amount to personal freedoms which I certainly hold
dear and my support of such things extend to the point where persecution of
others begins as that's when infringement upon others freedoms starts.
However, the problem with city,state or federal support/embracement of the
Christian faith in allowing displays specifically iconic to that faith, or for
any faith for that matter, violates the intent of our governments policies
regarding separation of church and state.
If any faith receives support by being allowed to display religious scenes,
artifacts, etc. on publicly held lands this violates such a separation unless
EVERY faith is also given equal area and allowed to display their chosen scenes,
artifacts, etc. . If you think about this for just a minute it should quickly
become apparent how publicly held lands could become totally over run with
religious materials if this were allowed, so the most reasonable approach is to
simply deny all faiths access to displaying their things on publicly held lands
as this then is fair to all and keeps the separation of church and state intent
totally intact in the simplist way possible.
Regarding privately held lands, as in personal property, stores, businesses,
etc., the freedom to display whatever the owner of the property chooses takes
over and then the pressures of political correctness come into play, most
specifically to businesses, as embracing one faith may offend members of other
faiths, but the real choice and rights about this is still in the hands of the
property owner(s). Anyone is still free to dissent with their choices and
protest such displays within the confines of the local/state/federal laws
regarding such actions.
Now then, I think you personally embrace the concepts of Christianity, right?
And, the complaint you seem to be making is that public displays of iconic
scenes and such relevent to Christmas ( a celebration of the birth of Christ)
are being effected by pressures regarding political correctness, right?
Ok then, take a look at this from another viewpoint and then see if you still
want to complain?
Would you be OK with taxpayer funds and public employees time and efforts being
used to purchase and construct birth scenes of Budda, Krishna or Mohammed's
birth on publicly held lands? See, here's the rub buddy, if you want to say
that Christianity should be publicly embraced then you must also allow EVERY
OTHER religion the same governmental support, and if you are unwilling to do so,
your thoughts or actions then become discriminatory in nature, and .... since I
doubt you apppreciate people discriminating against YOUR faith, YOU in turn have
to acquiesce and be fair and not discriminate against theirs either.
Lastly, the old saw about "weve always done it this way in the past"
means nothing at all, or what it seems to beg if one supports such an ideology
is that we, as the race of man, have reached the highest level of understanding
possible, therefore no further change, understanding or development is possible
or necessary by us, which is a far cry from anything I would call the truth
jgoins Report This Comment Date: December 15, 2008 01:07PM
I have no objection to any faith using public property to display their faith
but the costs for the install and cleanup should be born by the organization not
by our tax dollars. I have no problem seeing icons of other faiths except maybe
those of Islam (depends on what direction Islam turns in the near future). As
long as those displays are done with respect and reverence I would have no
problem with atheists having a display, no hanging Jesus or the virgin Mary and
such. I haven't heard of any faiths being turned down in favor of Christianity
on any public property but if they were then that is wrong and should be allowed
instead of disallowing all of it. This always comes up at this time of year.
Last year Wal-Mart employees were even told not to wish anyone a Merry Christmas
fortunately this year there are no such restrictions. As for private property,
nobody is going to tell me what to put in my yard of not.
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: December 15, 2008 05:15PM
I still think you're missin the point JG !
For the sake of insuring a level playing field for all matters where church and
state could become intermingled, realistically it means NO FAITH can expect
anything from the state in this area, otherwise one group would always cry foul,
no matter how hard an affort were made to be fair to all.
And ... your statements regarding Islam still puts you in a discriminatory
position, which makes it unsupportable!
Lastly, since athiesm IS NOT a faith, as it is indeed the total polar opposite
as it chooses to denounce belief in ANY faith, the only display I could even
imagine might look like this:
You are HERE -> . Think about it
jgoins Report This Comment Date: December 16, 2008 12:22PM
The separation of church and state was enacted to prevent the government from
forcing the people to choose on religion over the other like England did at the
time. It wasn't designed to be used to disavow all religion, just not to
endorse any one religion.
As for Islam, I am not discriminating against it just the way radical Islam uses
it. Islam is fine as long as they do not try to force everyone to join of die
which is happening in many places right now and maybe a neighborhood near you
soon.
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: December 16, 2008 05:47PM
Hmmm ... that's some pretty scary stuff. Zealots are taught, or more
precisely, indoctrinated/brainwashed/brow beaten, not born.
Anytime one ideology, theology or agenda is pushed as the only alternative to a
reasonable conclusion, with no allowance for thought outside that realm,
essentially, freedom is compromised. Once one is indoctrinated into total
acceptance of a singular possibility as the one and only path to the truth, all
possibility of truly free thought is, if not totally abolished, at least
severely compromised.
An "army of god", any god, is a dangerous tool and is most assuredly
one that lies in the hand of some one or some group, as otherwise they would not
exist at all. All armies exist to make war, and religious armies are truly the
scariest of all as they are empowered and manipulated by zealots and the will of
zealots
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: December 16, 2008 06:38PM
someone must keep the "Orks" in line.
jgoins Report This Comment Date: December 17, 2008 12:12PM
Geography will not be an issue when Islam is finally controlled by radical
Islam. We have over 6 bullion of them in this country alone.
suchez Report This Comment Date: December 18, 2008 03:22PM
oh... duh, how stupid of one, you are being sarcastic
jgoins Report This Comment Date: December 19, 2008 12:55PM
Not sarcasm. In this day and age geography is no longer an issue in any
conflict especially a religious conflict. Al Queda and the other radical sects
would like nothing better then to control all of Islam and when that happens
attacks will occur anywhere in the world.
suchez Report This Comment Date: December 19, 2008 01:25PM
"6 bullion of them in this country alone"
not sarcasm? what is your population count source? there's not even that many
people practicing islam on the whole planet
what you are saying is that everyone on the planet is within the u.s. borders.
and everyone, including you and myself are moslems.
???
are you on this planet? maybe you are from somewhere else somehow, one such as i
can not tell
suchez Report This Comment Date: December 19, 2008 01:49PM
U.S.
population
Moslem population within the U.S.
okay, this might help you out, sorry i was being sarcastic earlier
the second link will have some words about facts that you may find hurtful, but
scroll down a little bit and it will see the statistics
jgoins Report This Comment Date: December 20, 2008 12:15PM
Ok, it might have been millions for the stats I saw but that is still a high
enough number to cause a lot of problems if they all joined the jihad which is
what radical Islam is trying to accomplish. This increases the reach of Islam
when it becomes radicalized.