BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 19, 2013 04:54PM
It's ok because after the trees are all gone we will have to grow hemp to
replenish oxygen in the air, which it does a more efficient job of anyway. We
might need to move to using bamboo for structures more. Things will have to
change no matter what concerning our use of resources. Either that or we will
eventually die off, the planet will continue to evolve, life will go on in some
manner, just like it always has, with or without us.
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: May 19, 2013 05:05PM
Pursuing disobedience is FUN .... even more so with a good buzz
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 19, 2013 05:18PM
I suppose it depends on what exactly you are trying to disobey. For example,
the laws of physics can be pretty brutal when it comes to attempting to disobey
them. Disobey social mores and values, yeah, go for it buddy. Just try not to
get arrested.
Did you get tornadoes near where you are?
pulse Report This Comment Date: May 20, 2013 02:24AM
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BlahX3
Either that or we will eventually die off, the planet will continue to evolve,
life will go on in some manner, just like it always has, with or without
us.
In 2004 I did a tour of Chernobyl, and the old nuclear power station that melted
down in 1988. The one thing that I found really refreshing was the fact that
life really does go on. It doesn't matter how badly we fuck up the world, the
forests there were lush and green, the trees were growing out of footpaths and
the floors of apartment buildings, nature was reclaiming the space and there was
wildlife everywhere.
Sure, the squirrels could get nuts off the trees with their laserbeam eyes, but
still it was great to see the way the earth was taking charge and slowly but
surely removing any trace of us from the landscape. It'll take time, but it'll
all heal itself after we're gone
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: May 20, 2013 05:16AM
Meh, laws steeped in science are one thing, while those made by man are meant
to be broken. Morality is the best guide overall, so if an act is moral, fuck a
law that says I can't.
The way I see it, obeying or disobeying laws all has costs. Sometimes it's a
personal freedom, others it comes outta your ass pocket
Yeah, the tornado (of the 10 that hit that night) that killed those 8 people hit
about 1/2 a mile from the Casa de Steele. My B-in-law was sittin on the front
porch of their place and called to tell me there was one on the ground. Got in
my truck and went down below the line of trees that was blockin my view and no
shit, there it was 'bout a 1/2 mile down the road !
It was movin pretty slowly, started comin right at me at one point, then popped
back into the clouds. Sumbitch knew it couldn phase the Man of Steele
The weather here can be pretty trippy this time of year
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 20, 2013 02:39PM
I'm glad you didn't get hit. 1/2 a mile is pretty damn close when you think
about how unpredictable and fast those things can be.
ImNotLikeEverybodyElse Report This Comment Date: May 21, 2013 03:16AM
"it's not a war on drugs it's a war on personal freedom okay just try to
keep that in mind at all times"
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 21, 2013 07:01AM
That is the purpose of government. You can't have people going around doing
whatever they want to.
jgoins Report This Comment Date: May 21, 2013 10:48AM
You are right Blah we can't have people doing whatever they want but our laws
should be based on things people do that have adverse effect on other people.
If doing something does not harm other people then it should not be illegal. IE
if my wearing a seatbelt does not harm another then I shouldn't be forced to
wear one.
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: May 21, 2013 10:50AM
Drug use and even abuse is a victimless crime, so how is that any business of
the government in a "free" society?
The governments own actions in pursuing these victimless criminals actually
create a multitude of offspring crimes and cost the lives of many people, both
innocent and not-so-innocent. A plethora of kidnappings, rapes, murders and
thefts all are created directly and indirectly by the criminalization of drug
use.
The very act of criminalizing adult drug use and possession is an attack upon
personal freedoms and is more intended as a way to surveil and control the
public much more than it is to protect them
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 21, 2013 07:31PM
You're preaching to the choir.
We do not live in a free society. We never have.
quasi Report This Comment Date: May 21, 2013 08:06PM
I agree that drug use is a victimless crime and should be decriminalized though
it should be noted that many users and abusers turn to real criminal activities
to finance their habits and their families often suffer greatly from their
actions.
jgoins Report This Comment Date: May 22, 2013 10:38AM
For the reason Quasi stated I feel pot should be legalized but other harder
drugs should remain illegal. If pot were legal, sold and taxed like booze then
there would be no more detriment to others than alcohol which will always remain
legal. Legalized pot would also reduce the price of it and take it out of the
drug dealers hands. It would be no worse on the street than bootleggers in a
dry county.
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: May 22, 2013 11:13AM
The fact that drugs are illegal creates a whole subculture of illegality of its
own.
If druggies could walk into a store and get their drug of choice instead of
buyin it on the street a huge number of crimes would be decreased and
eliminated, and ... the govt could stop wasting the billions of dollars they
currently waste annually on the unwinnable war on drugs.
I'd rather see our taxes spent on treating addiction, which would be a lot
cheaper too, than on incarcerating ever growing numbers of "criminals"
whose greatest harm is what they do to themselves
quasi Report This Comment Date: May 22, 2013 02:47PM
Overall, law enforcement around here is pretty decent but I do get sick of them
tooting their little horns every time they bust a grow house; what a waste of
time, money, and manpower.
On a side note, I've been staying at my mother's for four years now helping her
through her fight with alzheimers and until recently my own house sat empty with
lights on timers and me going over a couple of times a week to look in on
things. My house is on a corner and a couple of years ago I went to check on
things one morning and the house directly behind mine had cop cars lining both
streets around it. Turns out it was a grow house. If I'd only known - I could've
gotten some stress relief right next door.
jgoins Report This Comment Date: May 23, 2013 11:12AM
Unfortunately intil something is done legally we will have to tolerate it and
just make sure we are careful ourselves.
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 23, 2013 04:21PM
Drug abusers make things difficult for other people in other ways too. Those
who abuse pharmaceuticals have made it become more difficult for those who have
legitimate use and need of those drugs to get them when they need them. Because
the drugs get abused everyone is automatically treated with suspicion and is
forced to endure delays and hassles getting the meds they need.
quasi Report This Comment Date: May 23, 2013 09:33PM
Your citing an issue which is a direct result of the war on drugs that the drug
users aren't directly responsible for - it's the authorities attempts to control
things, not the users causing this issue.
Also, just saw this re pot. [
www.foxnews.com]
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 23, 2013 10:45PM
But the government uses ABUSE statistics to determine how they classify drugs
that are prescribed. So the ABUSERS do have a direct effect on what schedule a
drug is classed at and how USERS have to go about getting them.
quasi Report This Comment Date: May 24, 2013 02:35AM
The abuser steals an ipad to sell for money to buy drugs = direct effect...the
abuser takes something
The government restricts drugs from people who have a legitimate need because
others are abusing them = indirect effect...the government takes something
because of the actions of others
jgoins Report This Comment Date: May 24, 2013 10:34AM
Another indirect effect is when someone with chronic pain condition gets
classified as a drug seeker by doctors and hospitals because it is easier than
finding the cause of the condition. That has happened to my daughter because
she has fibromyalgia and doctors don't want to take the time to find out for
sure.
quasi Report This Comment Date: May 24, 2013 12:21PM
My mom will be 88 next month and until last year she had a prescription for
vicodin to help with the chronic pain she suffers after forty years as a nurse
on her feet in hospitals coupled with her advanced age. The DEA pressured her
doctor, a legitimate MD, to cut back on the number of vicodin prescriptions she
was writing so she asked to stop giving my mom the medication. By that point the
vicodin was ineffective anyway, if it ever did any good - if my mom's like me
the stuff is useless for pain-, so we switched her to straight tylenol. She has
done alright with this, but I have no doubt that there are multitudes of people
who should get this type of drug but can't, not because of the abusers
themselves but because of yet another backfired government program that hurts
innocent people in the name of "justice". Makes me sick.
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 24, 2013 07:09PM
She is better off not having to take an opiate drug anyway in my opinion.
Acetaminophen works very well and a good choice if you're a teetotaler.
Certainly the DEA is blamed with just reason but doctor-shopping pill-junkies
brought it on. They have contributed greatly to having fucked it up for everyone
else, even if "indirectly". The reality of it is direct enough.
jgoins Report This Comment Date: May 25, 2013 10:31AM
All of this is true but unfortunately there is nothing whatsoever we can do
about it. As long as the government thinks it is all powerful and God-like shit
like this will continue to happen.
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: June 08, 2013 05:19PM
Perhaps not always a victimless crime...
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