pulse Report This Comment
Date: November 03, 2024 01:35AM

This is because we don't treat politicians like anything more than the public servants they are

woberto Report This Comment
Date: November 03, 2024 02:05AM

Also the Parliamentary system is vastly superior to the Presidential concept.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/11/2024 02:05AM by woberto.

pulse Report This Comment
Date: November 03, 2024 02:09AM

From what I can tell, and I'm the first to admit I could be wrong; one of the biggest problems in the US election cycles is appealing to the fringe elements.

Because voting isn't compulsory, you're not trying to appeal to average normal people because for the most part people don't care, and won't vote if they don't have to.. you try instead to appeal to the fringe elements to encourage them to vote. This means the left is becoming more left and the right is becoming more right, because the middle don't really care. The whole lot feels like it's becoming more extreme, and more personal attacks, and more buzzwordy. The same kind of behaviour makes people turn against each other harder as the edge cases leak into the mainstream.

Somewhere like Australia, where it's compulsory to vote (and elections are on weekends but early voting is also allowed to encourage 100% turnout), political parties live and die by policy. You don't need to appeal to the nuttier parts of society, because they have to vote anyway; so they'll vote more on the policies they're directly affected by than the person saying it. Also, we vote for a party, not a prime minister. They can, and have, swapped PMs during periods of power several times.

There's always exceptions of course, but on the whole it's something I've noticed over the past ~25 years I've even remotely paid attention (mostly due to the internet).

woberto Report This Comment
Date: November 03, 2024 03:15AM

Nutters can still elect someone to the Senate in Australia.
I've never quite worked that out.

US news has been rambling about "undecided" voters.
Bullshit. If you lived there for the last 8 years, you know damn well.
Nothing is gonna change your mind either way.

pulse Report This Comment
Date: November 03, 2024 04:06AM

You love Lidia Thorpe

True, dipshits can still elect dipshits. I thought she was from QLD or something until I recently found out she's from VIC.

Yeah I don't really get this "we're appealing to undecided voters" thing.. if you don't know by now you're probably not going to vote.

pro_junior Report This Comment
Date: November 04, 2024 05:43AM

If voting in the USA was mandatory Jesse Jackson would win every fucking time.

Anyway, what's about to happen is one of two things;
Trump wins in an epic landslide...
or,
unfathomable amounts of voter fraud.

There's no way that Hyena Harris will legitimately win.
The ONLY support she has is from diehard democrats that "vote blue no matter who", and from the TDS crowd.
I am quite certain that both of those groups are exponentially shrinking.
Anyone that isn't living in a mainstream media echo chamber knows it too.

woberto Report This Comment
Date: November 04, 2024 07:07AM

PJ you must be baiting someone.
People who say that shit are usually the problem (but hey it's a free country) and I shoukd know because my favourite pastime is being part of the problem, not part of the solution.
Anyhoo, election fraud is real but it could never move numbers more that half a percent of the total 150million votes (or whatever).

Peter Puller Report This Comment
Date: November 04, 2024 06:53PM

PJ: We've been seeing that mindset for about ten years now: "Either I win or there's fraud." No, it doesn't work that way here. In fact, the way Trump typically talks the truth is closer to "I win and there's fraud in my favor." You don't hear much about Democrats voting twice, destroying ballot boxes, or storming the government halls to halt certification of an election, do you?

TDS plays a heavy role, indeed -- we're tired of Trump's derangement.

woberto Report This Comment
Date: November 06, 2024 07:05AM

Qoth Annabel Crabb " every voter in every one of those states will not only be voting in a different system from the others, but they'll be voting in a system that is different from the last time they voted.
Why? Because in the US, electoral rules aren't set by a central independent voting authority the way they are in Australia."

pro_junior Report This Comment
Date: November 06, 2024 07:00PM

As I was saying...