youwantmyusername Report This Comment Date: March 08, 2005 01:07PM
I'll tell ya why. Just because the majority of the US population is Christian
doesn't mean we live in a Christian State. It's pretty much the same as putting
copies of the Torah in front of givernment buildings. The US government is
supposed to be secular. The conflict seems obvious.
mkcerusky Report This Comment Date: March 08, 2005 01:10PM
I must have missed something: where is it written that this image is referred
to americans?
Black_Trans_Am Report This Comment Date: March 08, 2005 01:51PM
I doubt that most people are offended by them. Why do you ask?
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: March 08, 2005 01:56PM
because he wants to ban religion, like a lot of the left wing nuts
Black_Trans_Am Report This Comment Date: March 08, 2005 02:21PM
I have heard of no movement to "ban religion". What are you referring
to?
penis_sucks Report This Comment Date: March 08, 2005 04:08PM
"Thou shalt not covet" OMG! Most of the viewers and posters on this
site are damned to hell! Coveting big breasted ho's is a sin according to the
bible
Black_Trans_Am Report This Comment Date: March 08, 2005 04:39PM
What does "covet" mean exactly? Seems like there could be a pretty
wide interpretation amongst the people.
Black_Trans_Am Report This Comment Date: March 08, 2005 07:04PM
...or maybe not.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: March 08, 2005 10:11PM
it was put on buildings by people that came to north america from other
countrys..
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: March 09, 2005 02:22AM
youwantmyusername, this is the first amendment to the constitution of the
United States of America. Please point out where it says we cannot display the
commandments on government property: Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise
thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of
the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress
of grievances.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: March 09, 2005 03:59AM
The constitution of the USA says that Congress shall make no law respecting an
establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. Also you
have to notice that it is the Supreme Court Judges that are issuing their own
edicts wheather it is constitutional or not. The Supreme Court is not above
impeachment. It just takes a lot of people who are fed up with their pinko
commie liberal edicts to complain to their congressmen, senators,
representitives, letter carriers, dog catchers, sherrifs, and anybody else that
has is in any responsible to us and is on the gommit payrole. But you have to
send chain e-mails to everybody you know and have them bitch at the above list
and tell them that if they don't do something about it, they will be voted out
of office. It may not work overnite, but it WILL work.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: March 09, 2005 04:06AM
its a set of rules that require you to eithor live within them or be damnd --
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: March 09, 2005 04:10AM
nice plot for a cult us or them!
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: March 09, 2005 04:10AM
nice plot for a cult us or them!
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: March 09, 2005 05:00AM
Creates a hostile work environment for elected officials and judges.
booger12 Report This Comment Date: March 09, 2005 06:43AM
They're all good rules to live by, regardless.
jumbo Report This Comment Date: March 09, 2005 02:54PM
I love the "idjits" that have obviously studied this in much more
detail than the US Supreme Court, have a much better undertsanding than the SC
about the US constitution and so can categorically state that the USSC is
wrong
Dickheads
Black_Trans_Am Report This Comment Date: March 09, 2005 05:19PM
Which 10 Commandments are you referring to? The Catholic 10 is different from
the traditional Judeo-Christian 10.
Honestly, the first couple of Commandments might be offensive to some. Frankly
#1 is a rather bizzare "commandment" from an all-powerful being.
Smacks of rather extreme insecurity. Anyway, in many versions of the Bible there
are more than 10 commandments. There is a really interesting column in
newsweek.com concerning this issue as it relates in the U.S. courts.
To me as an American it is pretty simple: The United States was founded on
(amoung many things) religious freedom. You have the absolute right to sutdy,
worship and believe in any religious idea you want to no matter how silly it may
seem to others. The government cannot prevent you from doing so. The government
(state, local, federal) also cannot official endorse or impose a religion on
it's citizens. In return the citizens cannot impose or endorse any religion on
any governing body...including displaying religious displays on government
property. The government serves ALL taxpayers and must do so fairly irregardly
of a citizen's religious affiliation. Government cant impose or prevent the
public and the public cannot impose it's views on or through the government. If
anything it is to promote harmony and fairness among our vast array of
citizenry. All tapayers (in theory) are to be treated equally have equal access
to the government services that they pay for. We all know that wealth greatly
skews that ideal, but the ideal is there nonetheless. Think of all of the
literally 100's of different religions, sects, denominations and the various
rifts between them that exist in America. Is it not easier and fairer to
seperate the church and state for the good of all...including if not especially
the church! The worst thing that could ever happen to your religion is to have
it forced up on the populace. It will do nothing breed resentment and
indifference to your most precious views/beliefs. The only true way for a
faith/religion to exist with any meaning is for the population to be free to
accept or reject it's teaching on it's own merit.
Yes, seperating the business of church and state protects everybody.
Could for example a Buddist Judge display a huge granite Budda for his
Courtroom. A Muslim Juge have a big ol' posting of the Koran in his? Yeaah, that
would go over really big. So why do Christians (of which I am one. Jesus is
great, organized religion, not so much) feel that they have the sole right to a
religious display on government property? In a courtroom no less. Would
non-Christians assume that there might be some built-in bias against them in
their business with the court? I would think (or at least wonder)so if I were in
that position. How awful, the court is supposed to be blind to all except the
facts of the case.
The 10 Commandments have very little to do with the establishment of America's
laws either. Thou shalt not kill, steal, cheat and lie are just basic common
sense and exist in legal systems all over the world including those that do not
have a Judeo-Christian history. The first three deal only in religion and have
nothing to do with law. Honor thy father and mother, again, basic common sense
and decency produce this same ideal. Besides which, what if your parents were
real pricks? Criminals? Child-molesters? Still want to honor them? I sure hope
not. The Sabbath? O.k. is that Saturday or Sunday? There is still very much a
debate as to which it is. What exactly does "keep it holy" mean
anyway, that is obviously open to a very wide degree of interpretation. Very
vague for a "commandment". Covet is also vague. Is it not natural for
human beings to desire: things, love, food, sex, etc.? When does simple desire
become "covetous"? Don't get me wrong I think that it certainly does
at some point but again this seems to be open to a fairly wide degree of
interpretation. What might be coveting to you may be nothing to me and
vice/versa.
So why is this an issue facing the U.S. today? Is it simply a matter of
ideologically opposed people using (wasting) our court's time and treasure to
square off on one another?
So it would appear. If not ok, then why? What is the signifigance?
Black_Trans_Am Report This Comment Date: March 09, 2005 05:29PM
oops, misspelled a few things. Sorry
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: March 09, 2005 07:57PM
did you know that the constitution was written by men who believed in and lived
by the 10 commandments? That George Washington displayed the 10 commandments in
his office while he was president and based his decisions off of them?
Black_Trans_Am Report This Comment Date: March 09, 2005 08:41PM
Anon1574, Do you mean the men that established that there should be no official
religion and that church and state business should be seperate. Yeah, they were
some smart guys.
As for Washington having the 10 hanging in his office, fine and dandy. Good for
him. As for Washington and the other founders using the 10 as a basis for their
decisions, well that seems awfully hard to verify. Seems like Locke and
Montesque (sp.) provided more of an influence for the U.S. constitution.
As slaveowners, did they not steal the very freedom & lives of the slaves?
As lawmakers, did they not steal from women their equality as people? Did they
not endorse and participate in the killing of the natives? Or do black people,
women and Indians not count as people? Adultery? Please, they got around
especially Jefferson and Franklin.
Look I understand your point, I admire the founding fathers as well, but c'mon
they were just men, no less falable then those of today. I dont mean to sound
like a jerk but they were not holy men.
Forcing ones religious beliefs on others does more harm than good.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: March 10, 2005 03:01AM
The problem is, the conservatives in power are trying to force all these down
our throats and make us live by them, whether we want to or not. Everyone has
the right to the religion of their choice, and to believe and speak their
opinions. People start arguing and fighting when religion gets involved.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: March 10, 2005 06:29AM
Wow, "Anonymous@94220", you finally realized that?!? That's why the
"general rule" of social life is to never discuss religion or politics
rogue_1 Report This Comment Date: March 10, 2005 06:49AM
#1 They were NOT spoken or writen in English
#2 The translation was up to the translator
#3 etcetera,etcetera,etcetera.....
#4 Come on guys, get real. Anyone with half a brain will realise whatever was
spoken-on-high could have been utter BULLSHIT
bigbooger Report This Comment Date: March 10, 2005 07:54AM
Yes, and actually the 6th commandment is literally translated as " Do not
murder". What is murder, an illegal killing. So....if a killing is ordered
by the state, it is not murder, but what is deserved. AKA- Jesus said "An
eye for eye, a tooth for a tooth.
bigbooger Report This Comment Date: March 10, 2005 08:16AM
Also, just because a cute Muslim girl smiles at a man, that "DOES NOT
Qulify as a sentence for death" as the Taliban think!
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: March 10, 2005 10:20AM
"Though shalt not kill" is not the original commandment. It was
originally "though shalt not murder" (well, in Hebrew of course, and
this only applied to the killing of other Jews. Killing anyone non-Jewish was
alright, that wasn't a sin.
Black_Trans_Am Report This Comment Date: March 10, 2005 02:09PM
Just curious bigbooger,
In what verse does Jesus say an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth?
I thought that was from the Old Testament.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: March 10, 2005 10:25PM
Man was created with a choice. It's up to him to do what he wants. He can live
by God's rules or live by his own.
Sarcastikus Report This Comment Date: March 19, 2005 05:15PM
I think people aren't so much offended by the 10 Commandments as they are by
the acts that have been committed using them as a justification. Combined with
the fundamentalist interpretation of the teachings of Jesus, the 10 Commandments
have been used as an excuse for all sorts of atrocities.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: May 18, 2005 07:42AM
It don't say thow shalt not smoke weed so I guess I'll go to heaven
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: September 03, 2005 03:08AM
neither god nor jesus exist, let him show his punk ass face if he dose, fuckin
pussy
