ToucanSam@2184 the thing is I am not sure if they (American Fascists) believe their own crap. I think they (the fascists) just want you and I and everyone to just accept this shit. Yes there is the dumb right-wing Christian follower who would believe anything, but your average fascist spitting out this shit I think they do not even really believe it. For example they will tell their blind followers "science bad" when it comes to the average American idiot, but then turn around and embrace science when it comes to making weapons of mass death. What it boils down to for the corporate elite is "we believe in science we just do not want you to!" And this goes that way for the elite of the Democrats too "We believe in universal healthcare for us and we will throw over priced medicines at the masses as a replacement for preventive medicine". I will say this over and over again "This Fascism!" This is the system my grandparents fought against during WWII whether they helped on the homefront or fought on the beaches of Normandy against the Nazis!